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Main  ::  Translations - all  ::  Pronunciation of Catullus? (Carmen 1)

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Guest
Posted on Wed Mar 19, 2008 09:01:10  
I'm sorry, I am very new to Latin and to Catullus.
Could you please let me know the proper pronunciation of Catullus?

Thank you,

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William
Chris Weimer
Posted at Sat Mar 22, 2008 07:06:11  Quote
That's a long topic. What specifically do you wish to know? Similar to proto-Romance, except C's and G's are always hard (so not like ceiling or giraffe), H's are largely silent, final M's before vowels are nasalized heavily and elided, vowels at the end of words coming before vowels at the beginning of words are also elided...

There's so much.

Chris
Guest
Posted at Sat Mar 22, 2008 18:13:21  Quote
Specifically, I was wondering if the two "u's" were long or short.
I think I have since discovered that they are both short.
Please let me know if this is incorrect.

I worked through a latin textbook on my own and I don't find the structure of the language difficult since I have a lot of experience with Greek, however I have really missed out on learning pronounciation from a proper classicist.

Thanks,
William
Rudy Negenborn
Posted at Mon Mar 24, 2008 17:02:32  Quote
To get more feeling about the pronunciation of Latin, also take a look at the scansion of the poems, e.g., of Carmen 1, and click the icon next to the title of the carmen to listen to the the pronunciation.
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Guest
Posted at Fri Apr 25, 2008 23:45:30  Quote
Gaius Valerius' name in the nominative, Catullus, is pronounced with both u's as short, unless it is in metre that forces one or both to be long. Metre largely determines vowel lengths, especially with a name like Catullus, which is most often named in literature, but there are rules of natural pronunciation that indicate how he would be addressed outside of verse.

As I stated, in the nominative both 'u's in Catullus are short, so both sound like the u in 'untie'. However, the natural rules of Latin pronunciation lengthen the first u when in the vocative, genitive and dat/abl.: Catulle, Catulli, and Catullo, respectively.

And the accent falls on the first u, the penult. If the a is stressed you get the name Catulus, who is a quite different person.

Hope I was some help,
Travis
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