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Main  ::  Translations - all  ::  About 'our' in line 1 (Carmen 58)

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Guest
Posted on Sun Feb 10, 2008 13:34:22  
It could be 'our' if the Caelius who's mentioned is actually Marcus Caelius Rufus: a bonvivant, who was Lesbia's /Clodia's lover after Catullus for a while; afterwards, Clodia arraigned him on the charge of attempting to poison her.

So then both Catullus and Caelius were her ex-lovers, which kind of explains 'our'.
Chris Weimer
Posted at Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:41:52  Quote
While it could be, do realize that "our" for "my" was very common. Cicero uses it abundantly in his letters to intimates. And in poetry, the poetic plural makes the usage twofold. But it is possible, if we follow the old model of Catullus' poems (that is, who Clodia was, was she younger or older Clodia, etc.) that it could have been your suggestion.

Chris
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Posted at Tue Feb 17, 2009 15:13:26  Quote
Catullus uses "our" instead of "my" because "noster" is a poetic plural. Poetic plurals are numerous in the poems of Catullus
arhernan
Posted at Tue Feb 17, 2009 15:16:51  Quote
"noster" is a poetic plural. It translates as "our" but Catullus means "my".
Amanda Hernandez, Latin student
University of Arkansas, Fayetteville
History Major, Medieval Renaissance Minor
 


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